Wilberforce kicks off Leeds arbitration against Football League

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  • Is the date of ruling accurate?

    Given the impact that the loss of 15 points has had on Leeds United's position in the League One football table, I would have expected that the ruling would be necessary prior to the end of the season (final scheduled fixture is 3rd May 2008).

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  • End OF MAY !!!!

    This cant be correct. Ruling not known until the end of May?! The season ends on May 3rd! Makes a mockery of the whole process.

    If it's true, it proves Leeds have been totally stitched up!

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  • Leeds and Football league

    I believed Leeds were already condemned to Division 1 prior to the deduction of 10 points. As I recall this was a cynical attempt to avoid the loss of the 10 points in the 2007-08 season.

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  • Leeds united and football league

    End of the day we hadn't been relegated and so we did receive the 10 point deduction and therefore got relegated. Theres no law against cynicism.
    The fact that the judgment is being made after the end of the play offs is a joke and proves this is not being taken seriously!

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  • Leeds

    it doesn't say end of may!!!
    it says before the end of the season
    some people need to learn to read

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  • Leeds United Arbitration

    Relax Leeds fans... the article says "before the end of the football season in May". We were already told it should be before the Millwall match, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a bit later. However, it MUST be before the seasons end... ie May 3rd

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  • Phil Thomas

    Leeds were not relegated prior to their going into administrationin 2007.
    This is factually incorrect. Nothing cynical about it, it was pretty much standard practice in every football administration to date.

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  • -15 Points

    This is a disgrace to leeds united!!! Why do you dock us 15 points in the first place but then to have the hearing so late on in the season!!!!!!!
    Whats that all about !!!!!!!!


    Come On Leeds!!!!!!!

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  • Deduction of Points

    If Leeds do get some points back there should only be a maximum of 5 as they should have been deducted 10 points this season and not last season for going into administration.
    They deliberately went into administration after it was confirmed that they were relegated.
    The league clearly need to look at a way of deducting points the season after a club goes into administration as this would be fairer on all parties and would allow more time to reorganise afairs off the pitch.

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  • Farce.....nothing more than I expected

    If Leeds are stitched up by there being no ruling until the end of May, then I hope Ken bates sues the Football League.....that is, should we not gain promotion to the championship directly because of the 15 point penalty imposed.

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  • 15 points who gives a duck, we're super leeds and we're going up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    is there a possibility that they could be given damages as well as the 15 points back?

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  • Response to Nigel D Heness

    You really should get up to date. The FL changed the rules about dates of going into administration months ago, that is why Luton and Bournemouth did it when they did. At the time Leeds acted within the rules. Are they guilty of sharp practice? Probably. Breaking the rules? No. KPMG, the FL and HMRC were pulling the strings during the close season and it is there lack of compromise that caused the CVAs to be dismissed. Interesting that HMRC stopped their legal action when the FL issued the golden share. If that's not evidence of politically driven action I don't know what is.

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  • Leeds 15 pt deduction

    As a Leeds fan for over 50 years I dearly hope Leeds get justice at the hearing. But the omens are not good,delaying the decision until after the playoffs seems to me be a cynical attempt to prevent Leeds taking part in them and preventing Leeds been promoted to the championship.

    Any points given back to Leeds after the season is finished and promotion decided would of course be pointless(forgive the pun) and a insult to the injury already received at the the FL who for as long as I remember (50 years plus) have been Ant-Leeds

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  • Australian Perspective

    As an Australian Leeds fan and a lawyer I can say that I am dissappointed by the whole process BUT...lets look at the big picture - minus 15 at the start of the season and now (on our own merits) in playoff contention. How awesome. The best way to fight back is on the pitch. Win promotion the old fashioned way and once in the Championship stick 2 fingers up to everyone else.

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  • Wilberforce kicks off Leeds arbitration against Football League

    I am a Donny Rovers fan so have a lot to lose should Leeds get their 15 points back. Leeds should not have had the points deducted in the first place. They got a 10 point penalty for going into receivership. OK they clearly timed things so the 10 point penalty was irrelevant but this was within the FL rules at the time.
    Put bluntly, they made idiots of the football league. Now the FL were a little miffed at this and so were looking for a way to slap Leeds with a relevant punishment. They found their "Excuse" in the manner described by the article. Now they are in it up to nasal level because cuddly Ken isn't having it. Unfortunately the FL have procrastinated so much as to make it an issue for other teams. If this had been settled in January, there would still be 1/2 a season for other clubs to react to Leeds' new points total (if they were successful). Now whatever happens is unfair to either Donny and Carlisle or Leeds. A partial return of the points would seem the least unfair to all concerned. The shame is that we must talk about "Least Unfair" and not "Fairest". Blame the FL.... Leeds compained from day 1, the FL procrastinated.

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  • Thanks F Duck

    It's good to see some objective views from people even though their team is in amongst all this end of season points mess. It's entirely down to the FL because they ought to have followed their own procedures & rules. I'll explain:- In the FL's rule book is a rule covering arbitration proceedures. This states that when arbitration is requested regarding removal of points, those points are RETURNED to the club affected until such time as the arbitration result is heard. If the FL had done this last August, all of the other clubs would now be thinking "maybe we'll get a BONUS of Leeds being docked points" rather than the sorry state of affairs where they are worried about Leeds being given points back. I know it's only a different perspective on the same situation at the end of the day, but surely they should have returned the points in good time. Their rules are there for a reason - it seems they missed a golden opportunity to keep everybody happy!

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  • Before may 1st

    I believe that they will publish the 'results' before saturday. Maybe tomorrow. I do feel sorry for Doncaster, but face it, they knew there was an appeal all along. Plus, if you look at the TABLE it shows Leeds won 26, drawn 10 = 88 points.

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  • John Ryan should pipe down.

    The Doncaster chairman keeps embarrassing himself in the press with his lack of understanding of the law.

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