Jonathan Ames

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  • It's a good job Savage doesn't have a massive vested interest in transferring training away from firms to legal education providers...

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  • Once again Lawyer 2B writes an article about the future training of lawyers and through an apparent lack of research, fails to grasp the entire picture.

    Yes of course there may well be calls for changes to educating Solicitors and Barristers but none of the suggestions are revelations and quoting Nigel Savage like some educational prophet is ridiculous.

    Once again you ignore ILEX and the training they provide that allows students to become lawyers vocationally, as Legal Executives, or as post graduates skip the training contract - via the Graduate Fast Track programme.

    When is Lawyer2B going to stop running to the College of Law for comments every time a story on lawyer training appears?

    Do your research properly and give your readers the full picture of legal education so students can see everything that is available to them. Or one could be forgiven for thinking there was some unfair editorial favouritism in play.

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  • What a shame there isn't another route to becoming a lawyer. You mention Solicitor and have an aside about Barristers but no mention of the legal executive route

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  • P Doody - that is a ridiculous comment. You only need to look at the main page and it has two stories talking about ILEX and one about a different training scheme Acculaw- and in this article the bulk of quotes are from Kevin Kerrigan - the Dean of Northumbria law school!

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  • Charlie - Of course you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, but my comments are not about other stories, they are about this one.

    Granted Lawyer2B does seem to occasional write stories on Legal Executives, but key stories about legal education and the different options seem to sadly lack the big picture. Just talking about Solicitors and Barristers training is simply not on and just continues to perpetuate a very archaic attitude to what is likely to become a very popular route into law.

    More balance needs to be included in articles like this. If a story with more than 2000 words, in a publication designed to show students what is available to them, can't do that then in my opinion that is just sloppy journalism.

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  • I am a recently qualified solicitor. I originally qualified as a legal exec, have 5+ of true practical experience and no student debt. Only when this becomes an accepted way in, on equal terms with the trad route, will the profession be open to all.

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  • No mention of ILEX yet again?! It is a model route into law and is constantly overlooked.

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  • Of course what goes around comes around. I did a 4 year sandwich law degree at what is now Nottingham Trent in the early 70s. I had 6-month work placements in each of the first 3 years. I got paid and got some excellent experience. Then I did the 6 months Law Society Part 2 course. If my work experience had been taken into account (the Law Society wouldn't), I could have been qualified in 5 years! I won't mention the ILEA giving me grants to go to Nottingham Trent and the College of Law. That bit clearly is planet fantasy.

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  • The glass ceiling still exists sadly and many prefer to see the name Solicitor. The fact is,as a Fellow, my job has in part been to train the newly qualified Solcitors when entering the work place. They have only had a mere 6 months experience in the relevant discipline and to be frank generally do not have a clue, whereas as a Fellow like me has had at least 5 years before being fully qualified. I personally feel that the ILEX route was invaluable for me. Experience in the discipline that you are to practice in is essential! I could nw do the LPC and I will not need to do the training contract due to my years of experience..but really,what will it add to what I already have other than a large debt and maybe the acceptance of the stuffy and outdated!

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