Shearman investigates viral email trainee By Joanne Harris 9 February 2012 14:43 17 December 2015 13:44 Sign in or register to continue reading. It's FREE Sign in Email Password Keep me logged in Forgot your password? Not registered? It's FREE! Register now Register with The Lawyer Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:03 England’s behaviour is normal for Shearman employees. Reply Link Bobby Smith 9 February 2012 at 15:06 Just shows the true value of a public school education and indeed the recruitment values of our leading law firms and banks. Whoosh and rah Henry! Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:13 Having seen the e mail in question, this is quite blatently a non-story. Why anyone would want to make an issue out of it is beyond me. Unless, of course the law firm in question is looking to make cuts and sees it as an opportunity to get rid of someone. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:26 i have also seen the email in question and while I think it is juvenile and stupid perhaps law firms in general might want to investigate the behaviour of some of their partners who actually inflict serious harm on individuals and their relationships, health and careers. Values aren’t just for the young ones. They should permeate through the entire company, However they do not. HR should deal with the rot at the top rather than picking on a few silly young men who probably have been curled up in the feotal position for the last few days dying of embarrassment for something that didn’t actually harm anyone else. Get a grip. There are people in law firms who do far more damage to lives and reputations maliciously and in a calculating way. This should not even be news. Start reporting real things, like bullying in law firms, sexual harassment and plain defamation of people by people who are desparate not to share their pie or get back at the pie. There are so many incidences of this that your front page will be full every day for a few years. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:27 It is absolutely right that action should be taken against each of these odious fools. There should no longer be a place at city law firms or institutions for over privileged public school morons who have suck a lack of brain power that they are incapable of figuring out that sending such an email to/from their work acount is beyond stupid. I shudder to think of clients paying hundreds of pounds an hour from advice from such imbeciles. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:28 Agree with the earlier comment, it’s just a bunch of guys having a laugh and getting prepared for a break. That’s not suggesting that the email is witty or funny (and they sound like a bunch of idiots), but it’s definitely not a news story. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:40 According to their email, however, they’re not only “whity” but also, ironically, “intelligent”. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:52 To all you self righteous posters, just imagine if your worst email (which you meant as a joke) made it into the public domain. These are just lads, bored at work, boasting! I hope Shearmans don’t follow up on their threat. Reply Link Bristol grad 9 February 2012 at 15:56 I had to put up with these types at university, and I can tell you it’s not just harmless japes. En masse they are deeply intimidating and unpleasant. Ever tried walking into a bar full of these creeps? They think they own the world. They probably still do, but not for long. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 15:59 They should be sacked, but “mummy” and “daddy” will doubtless pull a few strings in order to keep them in place. The tragedy is that the lack of values displayed by these morons is now reflective of much of the population – wholly shallow and superficial, money-obsessed, salacious and vulgar. Revolting products of a revolting society. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 16:02 I just hope that the US firm does not share the same shallow stupid view of it all being a spot of harmless fun ‘ole boy”, particularly when you associate the firm’s name in it. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 16:03 Couldn’t agree more with Anonymous | 9-Feb-2012 3:26 pm. Also, banter is part of being a trainee. I imagine there is going to be zero banter now among trainees at Shearman which is sad. As a former trainee at Shearman, what made it bearable working there was the banter among trainees. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 16:05 Just tried to look at his LinkedIn profile, only to be told the page does not exist. Shearman’s move fast… Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 16:11 Why don’t you all just come out and say what you really feel? You’re enjoying their public humiliation, because they are (to quote the comments on here) ‘rah’, ‘over privileged’, ‘public school’ etc etc. If the only reason you take umbrage at their (admitted crass) antics is that they are a bit posh sounding, then clearly your position and opinion is tainted by irrelevant factors, ie your own inverted snobbism. Would you feel the need to refer constantly, and to contextualise their behaviour with reference to, their background if they’d been to state schools? Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 16:14 Was it a stupid thing to do? Yes. Was it funny? Not particularly. I just can’t see what taking action against them would achieve – I’d say that the public humiliation is probably punishment enough Reply Link shelley 9 February 2012 at 16:36 Humane Remains never cease to amaze with their PC and waste of time. Get a life Shearman. Get rid of HR and save some money. Reply Link Dayglo Dave 9 February 2012 at 16:40 Note to HR Dept at Shearmans: I realise you have to be seen publicly to take this matter terribly seriously, but I trust that in private you will give this lad a ticking off and leave it at that. He and everyone else in the firm will have learned a lesson. Keep a sense of proportion. You have a lot more to lose if you give the guy a hard time. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 17:01 Nothing abnormal at all about the email they sent round. Just a bit of banter before going on tour. Only parts I found shocking was the word “oily” and the popped collar game (very 2005). The rest of pretty standard. Reply Link Bristol grad 9 February 2012 at 17:04 @Anonymous 4:11 Sounds to me like you’re punting a “poor them, they’re being victimised” argument. But if you read their email their social status is actually part of their group identity. So yes, the fact they went to public schools and have rich daddies and mummies is the point. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 17:05 is this really news? Surely there are more important issues out there for the Lawyer to rpoert on! Reply Link Norman eMailer 9 February 2012 at 17:16 I hate to think what the press might have made of the emails that I wrote when I was a trainee. Of course they were all very ironic and very, very witty, but taken out of context the emails would have made me look awful. I wouldn’t hang out with these guys, but they have my sympathy. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 17:28 Hold on. As far as I have worked it out he didn’t write the memo, one of his friends did. All he did was receive the memo which then got kicked on to all and sundry. If you start hanging people for the company they keep and the emails they receive then I can think of a number of partners who would have been out on their ear a long time ago. Reply Link Anonymous 9 February 2012 at 18:03 Poor lads, roasted for a bit of fun in the media and now the public calls for their blood. I think it should be punishment enough for these chaps to endure the years of ridicule at the hands of their colleagues that this will lead to, not a reprimand. Reply Link Wrodger 9 February 2012 at 23:14 Surely these chaps just miss their GAP YAH!!!’s? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHDY2QpaSwU BANTER! Reply Link Simon A 10 February 2012 at 01:54 To all those “this is not news, why is it being reported?” etc. commentators – you read the article, and then commented on the article! It has over 30 comments so far, which after a quick glance around the website makes it by far the most commented on news piece on this website. I presume you are the same types who read the Daily Mail website every day then tell everyone you meet how awful it is. Reply Link Max 10 February 2012 at 02:57 As this poses an entirely private matter this behaviour, as juvenile as it may be, is non of our business. I find the extent to which people judge a group of individuals on the basis of more than dubious and scarce “facts” very disturbing. Some of the gloating other firms should maybe put their own house in order first. Reply Link Anonymous 10 February 2012 at 06:07 call me out of touch but what on earth is a honey glaze! Reply Link Anonymous 10 February 2012 at 08:07 shelley | 9-Feb-2012 4:36 pm Yeah, diversity training and trying to encourage people not to discriminate against each other, what a waste of time. I too have a huge problem with people trying to be fair to one another, we should go for a drink as soon as my firm has settled the £5million sex discrimination claim because a bunch of bullying partners drove an ambitious young girl over the edge and into the priory. Well, if you can’t hack it……… Moron. Reply Link Anonymous 10 February 2012 at 09:00 I am amazed to see posts that criticise what was said and which then go on to criticise the people who said it (for being “over-privileged public school morons” to quote one poster, even though the article makes no mention of the where these young men were educated). Can these people not see that they are equally prejudicial as the people who they are criticising? Reply Link Anonymous 10 February 2012 at 10:06 With the national papers printing the emails, they have recieved enough punishment for what is a very naive act. It’s a mistake these gentleman are obviously well educated so will take this as a learning curve. Reply Link Anonymous 10 February 2012 at 11:55 Many law firms advertise that they want trainees with ‘sense of humour’. Some training contract information says that this is ‘an essential quality’ for any trainee to succeed in their firm. Well, well, well…this guy surely fitted the bill Reply Link Jack Whitehall 10 February 2012 at 15:44 At best, they each sound like the ‘JP’ character in Channel 4’s Fresh Meat; at worst, ‘King Ralph’ from the same show. Reply Link jacques 10 February 2012 at 17:29 Mr England: my company will get in touch if you are disciplined – we have deep pockets and you should not be bullied for sending no more than a silly email. Lets see if we can resist your HR dept., who will want to justify their existence. But law firms do not make good defendants. Stay put and fight your corner. Reply Link Anonymous 11 February 2012 at 09:36 where can i read this email then? Reply Link pen q 11 February 2012 at 14:55 Lads – move on. New recruits think twice before joining this firm. A silly HR investigation of no more than a silly email, which we are all capable of sending. Like to see HR personal send boxes. The hypocrisy of it all. Reply Link Anonymous 12 February 2012 at 09:29 The email was obviously a joke and although stupid it was nothing more. People, who have never met the 4 individuals, forwarding it on with malicious comments. in my opinion, have performed a far worse act. They have been embarrassed in the press and that is more than enough. It would be an outrage if Shearmans took any further action. Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2012 at 17:41 in my experience of law firm HR departments (as an employment lawyer who has advised them) it’s very unlikely they will have made any public comment on this without a steer from the partners. The HR-bashing in these comments is just another example of the type of superiority-complex/condescension to ‘support’ functions which is all too common in the city. 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