Pride 2010: all equal in love and law

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  • Perhaps we should try this concept?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_privatization
    Marriage privatization is the concept that the state should have no authority to define the terms of personal relationships such as marriage. Proponents of marriage privatization claim that such relationships are best defined by private individuals. Arguments for the privatization of marriage have been offered by a number of scholars and writers. These arguments are most often raised in the context of same-sex marriage. Traditionally arguments surrounding the topic of same-sex marriage tend to be in support of same-sex marriage or against same-sex marriage. A third option involves a policy of allowing civil unions for same-sex couples while maintaining marriage exclusively for heterosexual couples. Proponents of marriage privatization often argue that privatizing marriage is a solution to the social controversy over same-sex marriage. Arguments for the privatization of marriage span both liberal and conservative political camps.[1]

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  • CIVIL marriage should most certainly be open to gay couples. If some religious groups don't recognise gay unions, then that is their right. But, they have no right to impose their interpretation of marriage onto civil law. CIVIL Marriage is a civil right, and denying it to gay people is an injustice.

    Civil partnerships were a huge step in the direction, but we need to takr that further step towards marriage equality.

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  • Effectively, religion has "highjacked" marriage. Perhaps in the UK a couple wanting to get married should go to the civil authorities for their civil marriage ... and then, if they so wish, go and have a seperate religious marriage, as is the case in France. Civil marriage could then be opened-up to both opposite-sex and same-sex couples. But the really radical way to get round the opjection of religion to embracing same-sex couples into marriage is to do away with civil marriage completely, and open up civil partnership to opposite-sex couples. Methinks that religion would moan like crazy at either option as ministers of religion would then be without their nice fee as a civil registrar!

    Good to see a good turn-out of the legal profession for the Pride London parade.

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  • Except, Nerva, same-sex marriage is illegal in France. Gay couples can only go for a PACS.

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  • Gay married couples from say Belgium , providing both partners are not French, are recognised in the same way as straight married couples - see the French minister of justice's response from 2005 - it has also been proven in court in Dec 2008

    http://questions.assemblee-nationale.fr/q12/12-41533QE.htm

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