Postcard from ... Tel Aviv

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  • L Meister, I couldn't have put it better myself. The point of this 'postcard' is not to offer an opinion on the Arab-Israeli conflict, but to provide an insight in to the writer's experiences as being a lawyer based in Tel Aviv.
    The Arab-Israeli conflict is not black and white. It cannot be reduced down to simply blaming one side or another. Israelis and Palestinians do not all think with one mind. They do not speak with one voice, and they certainly don’t act as one body.
    There are moderates and extremists on both sides of the conflict. Posting incendiary comments on TheLawyer.com doesn't highlight the plight of the Palestinian people or condone Israeli policies in the West bank and Gaza. There is a time and place for debating Middle Eastern politics and this isn't it.

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  • Meister would love for us to buy the vacuous "only democracy in the ME" line - well buddy there was also a democracy in Europe which caused much damage to humanity. You should try to talk sense into your settler friends who want to cleanse the occupied lands. Once you achieve that then you will have the right to preach.

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  • L Meister continues to live in his make belief world - genocide and ethnic cleansing cannot be justified on the basis that Israel is a "democracy". Israel cannot claim its a civilised nation until it stops the occupation and allows Palestinians the right to basic utilities and food imports.
    You cannot expect to promote Tel Aviv without also accepting the crimes being committed on a daily basis by Israel.

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  • I can't wait for Postcard from...Belfast

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  • As a little aside to my earlier point: actually, if anything, lawyers in Israel play a very important role in highlighting human rights issues and in pursuing them in the courts. The Israeli Supereme Court very often challenges Israeli government decisions.
    So to the "haters" - perhaps you could actually be more constructive and support a legal community which often goes to great lengths to support a cause you believe in.
    That said, I also want to re-iterate that this article is NOT about the political situation, nor is it about "lawyering" in TA per se. It is merely about how one particular lawyer feels about living there.

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  • Obviously missing Cadbury's Creme Eggs so much that they have become "cream" eggs in her tortured mind...

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  • Natalie, this is a great article, thank you! Finally something positive on Israel. What a change from all the negative we usually read when it comes to Israel.If the people who wrote the negative comments had visited Israel, they would actually understand how different the reality is there from the views that anti-Israeli or pro-Palestinian groups try to promote!
    Yes Israel is a democracy, yes, Tel Aviv is a great city, one where Arab and Jewish families have barbecues next to each others on the see front during the weekend ... so much for the cleansing some are mentionning.
    I don't want to enter in a political debate as this is not the forum for. I just want to say that this a fine article but you probably need to be open-minded and and not too stupid to understand it!!

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  • This is an article about a lawyers experience in Israel, not a political debate on Israel. Its like talking to a wall sometimes, the middle east is populated by authoritarian regimes with appalling human rights records. Israel is home to at least 80 human rights organisations, a vibrant free press, a democratically elected government (with Arab, openly gay MP's), a judiciary that frequently rules against the government, a politically active academia, multiple political parties and probably more journalists per capita than any other country in the world.
    On the other hand, the Iranian regime, and most Arab regimes, remained brutal, closed and autocratic, permitting little or no internal dissent.
    the UN could be greatly beneficial to citizens of those countries, but they were instead being ignored as report after report on Israel is compiled and you all swallow it like everyone else down at the student union.
    Its really just fashionable nonsense to criticisize Israel..

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  • Paddy and Henry G are seemingly the same people? judging by the timings, grammar and opinion. I would also go as far to say that he is also Sean Fein that returned later to see if he had any replies.
    This method of blogging is just to make out that ones particular opinion is very popular with others.. just saying... get a life..

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  • Natalie, thanks for a great piece. You've described Tel-Aviv as it is and have evoked the spirit of the city.

    To the sneerers (the 'cadbury's egg' comment is one example) and the other bitter armchair warriors: Let's see you write similar hateful comments about other countries who are in a state of war. Oh, I forgot...these standards (double?) only apply to Israel.

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  • Interesting article - I've heard good reports from friends visiting Tel Aviv and would like to visit, the nightlife being a drawcard!
    On the political note, its hard to avoid the fact that Israel let's itself down. As a country born from oppression of its people, its a shame it has not 'treated others as it wanted to be treated itself'. Yes some ME regimes are despicable (see comments on Postcard from Riyadh). However, Israel's policies in Gaza and the West Bank are disgraceful - just because Israel has democracy unlike most ME countries is irrelevant to this fact. The admirable Menachem Begin, former terrorist (against the British), President of Israel and then Nobel Peace Prize winner, said he had no doubt that Israel would be judged "by its treatment of the Palestinians" - with the siege of Gaza, the illegal colonisation of the West Bank, the building of 'the wall', the continued occupation of foreign lands and disregard for international law including basic human rights.... perhaps 'apartheid' is a suitable description?

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  • This is an excellent article.
    Reading the comments on your piece from others, it is a shame that some people seem incapable of distinguishing their one dimensional political views from Natalie's personal reflection on the city where she works.
    It is undoubtedly their loss.

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  • Sounds like a nice place but there's no getting away from the (sad) reality that the country in which it's located is guilty of crimes against humanity.

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  • Peter, do yourself a favour and actually don't visit Tel-Aviv, there's a good chap. you might bump into some people who recall how, after 1939, the British refused to let Jews escaping from the Nazis into Palestine. And your comment about how other countries' (presumably Arab) lack of democracy and Human Rights gives them some 'get out of jail card' is rank hypocrisy.

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  • Anonymous@7.03 pm: After the Iraqi and Afghan wars, I presume that you won't be visiting the UK very soon, then!

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  • Great article, great country.
    Why is it whenever there is an article about Israel vitriolic comments appear - "genocide" "apartheid".
    Israel is a small country surrounded by enemies that question its fundamental right to exist (Iran/Hamas and others). It is is a democracy struggling to resolve a complex political issue. Most Israeli's accept there has to be a fair and just resolution of the Palestinian issue but as in most democracies getting a consensus is not easy.
    The vitriol does not help. A more considered (lawyerly) approach to the issue would go a long way.

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  • Anyone with a brain and a conscience can discern that Israel is a complicated place with a dramatic history. At times, Israel as a state is deserving of criticism, as is any other state in the world.
    I am alarmed, however, at the unrestrained venom that many of the comments here express. As much as I am reluctant to equate anti-Israel rhetoric with anti-Jewish racism, I can only conclude that much of the unsubstantiated vitriol levelled against Israel by readers of the article is motivated by prejudice and bigotry.
    I fail to understand how it is relevant or proportionate to unleash a hail of hate against Israel upon reading a light hearted commentary on a vibrant Mediterranean city.

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  • It sounds great. I'm sure the newly-orphaned children growing up in the Gaza slums would love to live in such a land of opportunity!
    The point is, no one is denying what a fun place it might be to visit, but try not to be seduced by the bright lights.

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  • I daren't make any negative statement against Israel for fear of being crucified. You can't justify evil acts against others on the basis that they have been perpetrated on people like you in the past.

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  • I spent a couple of months at Heskia Hacmun Law Firm and it was realy great. Really recommended for interns.

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