Pinsents – first firm to offshore work of qualified UK lawyers

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  • anonymous @ 5.46 - how exactly will quality drop? 'Being unable to communicate properly with the people doing the work offshore will lead to the same frustration'. Are you suggesting that South African lawyers can't speak English? Or write in English? Are you suggesting that Cape Town is in a timezone that will prevent the London lawyers from communicating with the South African ones?
    I think your comment is patronising and just plain wrong.

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  • Many general counsel, some of whom will not be English, will almost certainly view with amusement the argument that "not English" automatically means "lower quality".
    Good point on the time zone issue. Why should calling Durban be any more problematic that calling Birmingham?

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  • Fascinating stuff I just had to blog about it. http://uklegaleagle.blogspot.com/2009/06/am-i-about-to-be-outsourced-to-south.html. Lots of valid comments but at the end of the day it comes down to cost, money and profit.

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  • I think, if they are outsourcing, it should come to Scotland.

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  • Dear 5.53 (Mary), it is unlikely that a Saffer will have UK legal nuance at their grasp. But, more importantly, the quality will suffer long term if UK trainees are left without work to train on.

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  • Whatever the rights and wrongs of this issue, what I find really depressing is the level of mis-spellings, poor grammar and above all lack of checking, which pervades this and other comment streams on legal websites. Are not most of the posters lawyers, and were they not trained, like me, to know that accuracy and attention to detail was absolutely fundamental to the profession? Surely that is what our clients expect as a minimum. If they can't rely on their lawyer to be accurate, who will guarantee it? This may be an unfashionable view, and it may seem "boring" to have to check through wording, but ensuring that our comments as lawyers were correct before sending them out would give them significantly more credibility.

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  • Pedant, I think you are exaggerating. There are very few spelling mistakes made by posters. Some posters though find it difficult to construct an argument; this is more worrisome.
    The move by Pinsents was predicted by Prof. Richard Susskind. We were warned and now we are in the midst of a revolution.

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  • What's that smell? Rome's on fire, you say?
    Quickly, write a report, outlining what is happening. And please ensure your grammar is accurate. That's the most important thing, after all.

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  • For a long time, the profession has been held to very, very high standards of professional ethics. It's the only way to guarantee that people can rely on lawyers as part of the justice machine. There will always be bad eggs. There will always be a need to deal with them in a way which can be relied upon to have serious consequences.

    How can any professional body be expected to protect the public from unscrupulous practitioners who cloak themselves through offshore arrangements?

    This is an erosion of professional responsibility and any "client" who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

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  • Margin business planning... don't ya just love it? Equity owners left the Dickensian ethic of upholding the continuance of a profession long behind and years ago. And yet, they've continued selling students and trainees the old pyramid scheme of advancement as gratitude for graft because students/trainees are daft enough to still believe in it. The profession is dead, what we have now is a DFS sofa selling model: get 'em in, get 'em out, make it cheaper abroad and hold seats of honour on the Law Society benches. You gotta hand it to 'em... the greatest trick the Devil ever played...you're looking it square in the eye and not seeing it... there is no future for the young professional because the bossman (if he hasn't sold it off already) is looking to do so in earnest...but hey, it's still one hell of a ride ain't it?

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