Norton Rose faces hiring battle in wake of new Govt visa quota

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  • My firm is not desperate in hiring indian trainees. We prefer hiring uk uni grads.

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  • I am a british graduate from oxbridge and my application ( ive got a 2.1 btw) was turned down for a training contract at Norton Rose. They prefer to take Indian trainees these days. Perhaps Norton rose should relocate to India.

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  • Good! They can hire from among the many talented UK graduates who keep getting turned down in favour of "overseas talent".

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  • @ Michel Burbridge - why do you think that Norton Rose owes you a training contract, just because you got a 2.1 from 'Oxbridge'?
    There are lots of people who get 2.1s (and better) from 'Oxbridge', and from UCL, LSE and Imperial.
    The world does not owe you a living. And 'Oxbridge' is not the be all and end all.

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  • "I am a british graduate from oxbridge...ive got a 2.1 btw". A gigantic sense of entitlement or what ? Dude, you need a better interview technique...

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  • The change in rules will effect all firms which hire from outside the EU. It is a new reality. I don't see how one application from Norton Rose makes them a special case.

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  • It takes real arrogance to believe that any firm has to take you just because you are a 2:1 from Oxbridge.

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  • To be fair, it would be easier to agree with the comments ridiculing the guy with a 2:1 from Oxbridge if, when one browses the lists of Partners at top firms and Silks at top Chambers, one didn't find that virtually all of them graduated from Oxford or Cambridge.

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  • Michel Burbridge - maybe it was the poor standard of your written English?

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  • I think the MB Oxbridge post may have been a wind up to spur comments from others. Most Oxbridge graduates will be excellent but of course some will come across as disappointing. Having graduates from around the globe with the increasingly international aspect to much of the legal work is vital for UK firms in maintaining their status as world leaders in legal services. Arbitrary caps may well be harmful.

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  • I cannot help but notice the unfairness of the rules applying only to non EU skilled workers. Reminds me of Thatcher's objections to a boat full of Vietnamese refugees vis -a- vis Polish unskilled immigrants.

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  • I forgot to mention I got accepted at Linklaters. May be Norton Rose should be called Norton Rose & Singh. It pays of course to be at Oxbridge :) Im proud to be at Links.

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  • Surely Norton Rose could have found trainees from the resident labour market. Why were they applying for work permits for non EU nationals when there are so many law graduates looking for work?

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  • If Mich[a]el Burbridge really is the name of the author of the comment above, then that's a nice own goal, although probably not particularly detrimental. Well played.

    It certainly isn't as bad as the guy who offered advice on the Legal Week career clinic a couple of years back by saying "I got a training contract with Slaughters this year, and I lied on my application. Said I got 5 A's when I only got [XY grades]". That was quite special.

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  • A bit of a strange attitude. Of course one may also question how many of the English qualified lawyers are working in other countries? Should they all come back and practice only in England & Wales?
    if you wish your business to be a bit international and you know your revenue is going to come from certain quarters of the world, perhaps it makes sense to build a team from those quarters of the world. Being English does not automatically entitle you to work anywhere in the world in much the same way as being a non-European does not entitle one to work in England.
    Just a thought.

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  • Michael Burbridge - you wouldn't mind working abroad involving Indian clients, would you?
    However you do mind sitting next to an Indian lawyer doing the same as what you are doing in the office.

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  • Michael Burbridge - Get a life.

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  • I am under the impression that for non-EU nationals to work in the UK they need to have skills that are in short supply/cannot be met in the UK. If they are qualified in Indian law and will work on Indian law transactions from the UK then a work permit would surely be given. If they are to work on English law transactions from the UK then there are lots of graduates from the UK ready and willing to do this work. The position is largely the same across the world. An English qualified solicitor doesn't expect to be able to work on Indian law transactions in India.

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  • It seems to me that MB's comment has been taken out of context and deliberately misconstrued. The point he mas making was that the impact of overseas hires is to reduce the number of openings available to ostensibly well qualified UK candidates. Or is someone now going to suggest that a candidate who has an Oxbridge 2.1 is not ostensibly (and I emphasise that word) well qualified ?

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  • It makes sense for firms to hire from abroad,especially from places like India. In the end it provides a way of obtaining contacts with potential clients in emerging markets.
    That overrides any application from an Oxbridge graduate.

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