Dentons to vote on Kuwait closure as New York's Curtis pulls the plug

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  • Wow, the only two international law firms closing down in Kuwait at the same time! It seems very difficult for these firms to do well there.

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  • Curtis still has an office in Oman.

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  • Competing with the expanding and successful remaining international firm, DLA Piper will be challenging. It has proven itself as a powerhouse in Kuwait currently handling the privatisation of the Kuwait Stock Exchange and co-authoring the new companies law. DLA is working on the largest and most cutting edge transactions in the GCC and is now the world's larges law firm. Other international law firm new entrants will struggle to get a foothold with such elite competition.

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  • Just had to respond to the "anonymous" DLA marketing department at 5:13am (probably from the Dubai office) - yes, DLA has a good office in Kuwait, but the main problem is that the market is small and crowded, and there are not enough big ticket deals to maintain a good workflow.

    In terms of the market itself, if you look at http://www.legal500.com/c/kuwait/banking-and-finance you will see that, while DLA is Tier 1, both the leading named individuals are at a local firm affliated with Stephenson Harwood (and no, this is not the SH marketing department).

    Any international firm would have to ask itself whether the costs of maintaining a Kuwait office are worth it, given the slim pickings - the limited number of local firms is an issue, but that in itself is not going to justify setting up an office there.

    Finally: "DLA is working on the largest and most cutting edge transactions in the GCC and is now the world's larges law firm" - you need to spell "non sequitur" as well as "largest". And "such elite competition" - who are you trying to kid?!? Your comment was more-or-less credible until that last sentence...

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  • DLA "elite", haha... Thanks. That made my day!

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  • What no rebuttal from the DLA marketing department "anonymous"? Today is a working day in Dubai after all... awaiting your response, especially about the "elite" thing.

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  • To the DLA hater, I really would rather not get into this with a small, insignificant local Kuwait law firm, who primarily just gives agency advice or provides local law opinions while the big boys like DLA Piper, CC and A&O do the real "men's work" of handling major finance transactions.

    So, Mr. Kuwait local law firm, when I need you to go to the Ministries to conduct my local work, I will call, in the meantime, please acknowledge that DLA Piper is the undisputed champion in Kuwait of the "Big Boys" work.

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  • As you can see, the staff at DLA Piper are lovely. Potential applicants take note...and avoid it like the plague. My vacation scheme not too long ago was painful, just photocopiers and unbearably dull and arrogant people.

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  • To Anonymous at 18-Jun-2013 5:48 am: are you in fact DLA's marketing department? If so, you give an extremely poor impression of your firm.

    In any case, you are rather narrow minded in assuming that the previous comments were from a Kuwaiti local firm with an axe to grind against DLA. I have never even been to Kuwait; my earlier comment (and I think those of others) was promoted by the absurd hyperbole of the "elite DLA" comment (although, to give due credit, the comment was amusing).

    This conversation may have gone on long enough; but whoever made the original "elite" comment can close this thread with an acknowledgement i.e. a graceful 'fessing up.

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  • To Anon at 20 June 2013 9:00 am, while not in marketing, I am very proud of the success of DLA in Kuwait, which is generally recognized as the top and, yes, the sole "elite" firm of the country.

    Also, it is clear from your jealous remarks that you are one, in fact, one of DLA's local law competitors, that immediately became second tier in Kuwait when DLA entered and took control of the market. Have you heard the saying "the (local Kuwaiti lawyer) doth protest too much, me thinks. " Look it up and then you can "fess up".

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  • To Anonymous at 21-Jun-2013 1:57 pm, this is Anon at 20 June 2013 9:00 am, I could not resist responding to your last post.

    First, for the second time, I am NOT part of any Kuwaiti law firm. I have never been to Kuwait. Do I have to do some sort of Turing test to prove this to you?

    Second, I am not criticizing DLA Kuwait per se. They are obviously one of the leading firms, of which there are a number. For example, in Legal500 for Kuwait, the same five firms, including DLA, are listed in all the work categories (although Chambers only ranks DLA in third tier). Anyway, I am sure DLA is a very good firm in Kuwait. Not jealous, OK?

    Third, this whole conversation was triggered by the absurd - yes, absurd! - comment that DLA is the "elite" firm in Kuwait. Very good, yes, but "elite" - as in head and shoulders above all the others? Clearly not.

    Over you. Still time to 'fess.

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  • This whole exchange is hilarious...

    Look, you're not helping DLA by trumpeting that it's "elite", which is really the last thing that comes to mind when you think of a good, second- or third-tier global firm. Come on. It's like a Baker McKenzie guy trying to convince the world that its firm is on par with Skadden Arps. Delusional self-promotion just doesn't work, whatever the merits of Baker (or DLA, for that matter).

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