DLA Piper investigates partner involved in Scudamore sexism row

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  • 'The e-mails were private....' Oh, so anyone can use whatever sexist or racist or otherwise inappropriate terminology they like, so long as it's only said to their (presumably male, presumably white, presumably middle class, probably middle-aged) best mate. These people just don't get it ... they just, just don't get it!

    P.S. of course, the reports suggest it was sexism only, on this occasion.

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  • Erm Nicholas, you're jumping to lots of assumptions that aren't borne out by the facts in your comment. Isn't that a bit like someone who makes prejudice comments..

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  • Nicholas. I get the gist of what you're trying to say but you do realise how sexist and racist your post is dont you?

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  • Hi Nicholas. I know it is abhorrent to be male, white and middle-class, but I happen to take offence at being assumed to be a sexist, racist, prejudiced pig.

    If you could keep your thoughts to yourself, maybe we'd all be a bit happier. Thanks.

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  • This is starting to get a bit scary, is The Lawyer now the legal sector 'thought police'? If people want to make daft and unpleasant jokes between them in a private email then why is this an issue? (I.e. that includes women making daft and unpleasant comments about men, other women etc to each other in private). If they'd directly spoken to/addressed a member of staff that way that would be different, but this was private. Is The Lawyer going to chase down every supposed 'thought crime' now?

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  • After Nicholas nobody else seems to get it. Can I try again? Mr Scudamore is in the public eye as an upstanding, role-model, enlightened kind of guy leading an upstanding etc organisation. His private emails indicate that he is in fact a sexist, prejudiced pig. Disconnect. He should walk.

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  • So far as I know, it isn't against the law to be sexist - only to discriminate on grounds of sex in employment or provision of services, or to sexually harass someone. We still have freedom of thought, conscience and religion, which includes the freedom to be sexist.

    Thinking that all public figures are tolerant equalitarian liberals is more than a little naive; the real problem here is not that West and Scudamore hold such views, but that they expressed them and then got caught.

    Using a work email to transmit (publish) such sentiments, though, is more than a little bit stupid, especially if you then plan to give access to a 'temporary employee'. Someone who is that careless about data security probably shouldn't be put in charge of anything more complex than a bucket and a shovel.

    As to sexism, really, what's been reported is so blatant and puerile that I find it hard to do anything as energetic as get offended over it. The most I can muster is a rather contemptuous eye-roll. It should be subtitled "Even though we work in offices, mate, emasculated by technology, we're Real Blokes and we are going to prove it with some Blokish Bonding Ritual, just to show that the Wimminfolk aren't in charge even though greater size and strength [on average] doesn't provide any advantage when dealing with spreadsheets. So we will have a sexist exchange just to show we're Blokes, instead of going out to chop wood and wrestle alligators with our bare hands."

    I find myself pitying men who feel they have to shore up their virility in such a way.

    The sexists you really have to worry about aren't the insecure wannabe-blokes who sit in offices writing puerile emails to each other - they are obvious, pathetic, and easily squashed; it's the ones who smile and speak reasonably who are dangerous. They're the ones who are quietly fighting against equality while you are distracted by the antics of the Scudamores and Wests of the world.

    If you want to find real sexism in sport, don't look to Scudamore. Look to whoever assigns the funding. They may not be sending silly emails, but they're doing something far more damaging: by underfunding women's sport, women are being excluded from participating in sport at every level from local to international. Oddly enough, nobody gets all incensed over that. Nobody thinks to ask "Where are the sportswomen who earn enough money to do it professionally, let alone earn salaries beyond the wildest dreams of most ordinary people?" or "Where are the sportswomen who are household names?" They just accept that professional sport is men's business, and leave it at that. That's real sexism, and it's so successful that nobody even notices it.

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  • @George Orwell Don't be daft. The Lawyer is reporting on an investigation launched by a law firm. It's an issue because private emails have been leaked, not because the publication is on a witch hunt for offendors. As a side note I think it's naive (particularly of lawyers) to imagine that emails sent from a professional address are private in any case, especially when these are emails with a famous individual.

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  • Some people don't have a sense of humour - it's been replaced with a politically correct whine...

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  • I do hope Annie Onymous never finds herself being secretly filmed laughing at an anti male joke at a Grumpy Old Women gig. That would make her career in the law quite untenable.

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