Gordons prepares for JR over York burial for Richard III

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  • Sad people with too much money.

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  • What jokers.
    Not just the clients. Gordons too.

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  • I strongly believe that all distant descendants of the last Plantagenet King should have had an opportunity for consultation before the license was granted, irrespective of how many people may be involved; and especially when many of the current living descendants are spread around the globe. Richard III not only holds a special place as a monarch,in the history of England, but is even more important to all of his living descendants, irrespective of any 100 year rule. I applaud the Plantagenet Alliance for commencement of the proceedings to ensure justice is truly done and that Richard is accorded the burial that he would have wanted.

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  • Richard III had 1 legitimate and 2 illegitimate children and there is no evidence that any of those had children of their own. So who are these "descendants"?

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  • To the two anonymous posters - if this was your grandmother or one of your parents who decided before they died that they wanted to be buried somewhere, and someone else decided they would be buried elsewhere, I'm assuming you would not take issue with that?

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  • It's people just chiming in for a bit of publicity. Let him rest in Leicester - it could do with the tourism.

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  • What is the HARD EVIDENCE that Richard decided before he died that he wanted to be buried somewhere ?

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  • It is impossible for them to be my descendants. They are the descendants of some of my immediate relatives. Yes we're related, but they do not flow directly from me. They are at best, exceptionally distant cousins, so to speak. In any event, I am bored of all of this.

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  • More money for the Lawyers!

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  • This obsession with Leicester is obviously just political correctness gone mad. There's only been a diocese there since 1926. Hardly of great historic interest.
    Either that or the decision makers are secret Lancastrians.
    A Catholic requiem mass according to the Sarum Rite in York Minster would be more appropriate.

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  • I demand a public inquiry into Richard's death!

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  • Is there any truth in the rumour that King Arthur's tomb is to be found underneath Leicester's renowned sporting facility, the Granby Halls?

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  • This guy is so yesterday, should've been buried straight away in Bosworth if you ask me. And he gets far too much publicity. Why aren't the social networks buzzing with my achievements rather than some bloke I killed and dumped under a car park? I created the Tudor dynasty!! You lot wouldn't have culture without me.
    Bloody Shakespeare, everyone loves a villain.

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  • I am thinking about suing the Plantagenet Alliance because my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was a casuality in the War of the Roses.
    Can I claim damages because he wasn't buried in Westminster Abbey?

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  • That was my car parking space.
    Perhaps the Platagenet Alliance will compensate me?

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  • Best Archaeological practice is to bury Richard in Leicester Cathedral. All of this is nonsense from the so called 'Descendants' of Richard III who appear to be in league with the York 'Body Snatchers for our Tourism' group. Richard was not born in Yorkshire at all and would not be 'Coming Home' . Richard was born in Fotheringhay Northhamptonshire where his Mother Father and a Brother are buried. His Yorkshire connection was simply on the basis that he lived in Middleham for some time - I cannot see that he left a Will wanting to be buried in York. The comments about Leicester on this board and from elsewhere in Yorkshire are just simply disgraceful.

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  • now then, don't get the hump

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  • @IanLauder: to be fair, Richard III WAS a member of the House of York - that's a convincing Yorkshire connection, isn't it?

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  • The costs, the costs, his kingdom for the costs ...

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  • I suspect that Richard would have been delighted to learn that even after 500 years he can still raise a good many supporters. To give him his due, a Requiem Mass in York under the Sarum Rite is appropriate.

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  • For White Rose - A member of the 'House of York'!!! - A more convincing argument for burial in York might have been to say 'He had a house in York'.....York are simply trying to body snatch for the tourist buck....

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  • Dux: Leicester was a diocese from 680 to 870.

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  • I cannot think of one reason why Richard should be reinterred in Leicester. Comments like the one from 'Chris' are pathetic and echo the reasons Leicester are claiming him. He was an anointed King of England, one who has been vilified and lied about for 500 years + surely he deserves to rest in peace now in the place he called 'home' as in a letter to the Mayor of York which he wrote just before his imminent return. He lived most of his life in Yorkshire and was Lord of the North for 12 years. He just happened to die in Leicester.

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  • However much i dislike the idea of Richard 3 being buried at York on the basis of the massive tourism draw it would be for York I strongly believe that Richard should be buried there. Leicester is not fit for a king and whether you liked him or not he was a (Kings King) dying in battle leading his knights. Secondly he was the legendary Duke of York and his son is buried in the minister and that where he also belongs. My impression id the University of Leicester has railroaded the burial and has not careid out proper consultation.

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  • Utterly without merit but evidently Gordons are happy to take these suckers' money. All due legal, religious and archaeological processes have been followed. If someone was to rule that these 15 people should have been consulted then (a) they need to provide genealogical evidence that they are indeed related to Richard, and (b) the other half-million or so people who are equally related to him need to also be consulted.
    I'm glad I don't live in York. The city is fast becoming a laughing stock.

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  • Miles from home I've stopped the car and buried a few Richard iii's in the woods - what's all the fuss about?

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  • "Secondly he was the legendary Duke of York..."

    No he wasn't; he was Duke of Gloucester.

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  • Well What can we say york calling leicester in a nasty way Not happy today were king will lay but in leicester he will stay

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  • God bless Gordons and the descendents of Richard for taking this on. These people are relatives of Richard's through his family.
    Good luck and I hope it works, Richard should be in York Minster.
    Richard spent over half his life in the North of England, Yorkshire in partivular and he regarded it as his home.

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  • Richard III should be buried in London.
    He was a king. He held court in London. Therefore in the absence of any written proof that he wanted otherwise he should be buried in Westminster Abbey.
    Failing that his remains should be buried in Worksop. That is half way between the beautiful vista of Leicester and the modern urban hub that is York.

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  • Didn't Richard III say "Kill all lawyers"?
    Well surely he would have made an exception for Neil Warwick of Dickinson Dees who has penned this Private Eye worthy piece on the subject? http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/business-comment/2013/04/10/what-we-can-learn-from-richard-iii-51140-33146349/

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  • I agree with those who have their doubts about the validity of R3's descendants. But the fact is that this - probably much libelled - king belongs to the North of England - not just the city of York, or at all York, for that matter. I bet you Richard wanted to be buried in Middleham Parish Church, or perhaps Westminster Abbey. Leicester, someone said has chronic want of tourism. If you are ever unlucky enough to visit there, boy, you will glimpse why. We the taxpayers, pay for the University in that town, so, ultimately it is our say alone where King Dick is buried.
    Some have implied that the people of the North let Richard down at Bosworth. I would point out that he was betrayed by the insidious liar and malefactor, Percy of Northumberland, who currently resides on a spit in Beelzebub's Deepest Cellar, joyously placed there by the good people of Thirsk and Northallerton some 500 years ago. Give us back our true, if adopted son, to be buried in the place which he for one loved!

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  • Dux needs to read his history books. There was a Christian bishop sitting in Leicester before ever there was one in Norwich, Durham, Salisbury among others. The diocese fell when the danes invaded Mercia causing the saxon bishop of Leicester to flee to Dorchester.

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  • The problem is that Richard III was a king of England - so in a sense we all have a say in what happens to his remains. I believe the discovery of his remains transcends normal archeological practice. The Ministry of Justice should have intervened and given Parliament, as our representatives, a free vote to decide where and how to rebury the remains. We take care over the remains of soldiers who died in the First World War, why should we not exercise similar care for Richard III? There are a number of choices for a final resting place - in the absence of a definitive instruction from the king - Westminster Abbey (where his wife and successor are buried), St George's Chapel, Windsor (where his brother, Edward IV is buried), Tewksbury Abbey (where his brother, George is buried), York (where his father was executed - and probably his spiritual home) and Leicester (where his remains were found). I support the legal challenge because I think the Ministry of Justice have been cavalier in their approach to the issues involved and they need to (be told to) think again!

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  • This all is such a waste of time and money . Laugh or the stupidity of the situation will make you cry.

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  • I have to say that, apart from the first two anonymous comments which are witless, most of these comments are hilarious! I was in favour of the Plantagenet alliance when I first heard this news, but my mind has been changed not being able to work out who they are and by the people pointing out that there is no real evidence Richard wanted to be buried at York. On the other hand, Leicester seems to have been in indecent haste to create opportunities to make money out of him. I agree with Henry VII - create a tomb & memorial at Bosworth where he fell. Shakespeare does indeed have a lot to answer for!

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  • My Wife and I both believe that in lieu of Richard not being able to be buried at Westminster Abbey as a King Of England, that the next best place would be York Minster. During his lifetime he loved the North more than he loved the Midlands or South.
    He was of the House Of York, not Leicester.
    The only association I can think of with Leicester is the proximity to it`s site to his defeat at Bosworth and where he was taken after the battle and after being degraded and dehumanised he was thrown into a grave, probably naked.
    Most of all, as Richard was baptised as a Roman Catholic he has the human right to expect a decent Roman Catholic burial no-matter where he ends up.
    Rather than Cities argue over the place of his burial, potentially for ecconomic reasons, we believe that it should be considered where Richard would have wanted to be buried if it was possible to ask him.

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  • Richard III was Catholic and received a Catholic burial in a Catholic monastery. Why is it now proposed that he have an Anglican re-burial?
    Nobody would suggest that the Queen (Anglican) should have a Catholic burial, so why is the opposite constellation valid and desirable?

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