Nalp and IoP squabble over paralegal training claims

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  • Both these organisations are a joke. It's completely unnecessary for students to join either of them to get a paralegal job. Enough said.

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  • WHY ARE PEOPLE DOING ANY SORT OF COURSE TO BECOME A CRAPPY PARALEGAL?!! Both organisations are clearly trying to make money out of the poor little glorified filing clerks.......

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  • I've been a paralegal and the last thing any firm wants is someone with more qualifications. They're completely unnecessary as the job is very procedural and can be picked up in no time.

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  • I attended the National Association of Licensed Paralegals and have now secured a job as a paralegal with the Local government. They were very impressed with my qualification and thought it showed initiative to go above and beyond just obtaining a degree. The post graduate diploma is a fantastic route to take when you need to learn about the procedural side of the job so you can start working. In conclusion it is beneficial in the long run, despite anyone's opinion that qualifications are not respected, furthermore this route is more practical for those who cannot afford to pay the extreme fees for the LPC!
    And finally, those who think that a paralegal's role is nothing more than a glorified filing clerk, clearly have no idea and present themselves as bitter and cynical wannabes!

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  • I have to agree with the above comment, as an employer I believe your staff can never be over "qualified". NALP do a sterling job and I would alway look favourably on someone with a qaulification from them.

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  • I love my job as a Licensed Paralegal. I am no filing clerk. I have my own clients, I go to court , I produce my own procedural papers and am well thought of in my place of work. The NALP helped me qualify 10 years ago and then I earned my Licence. I feel I am a valuable asset to my firm and the NALP gave me the confidence to achieve this. What came first the chicken or the egg? Does it matter if the training suits your requirements!

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  • I am a Paralegal and I believe that my training enabled me to obtain my job and understand what is required in my role. It only makes sense to get the skills that employers are looking for as not all employers have the time to train from scratch. They usually look for qualfied and competant people, as job advertisements testify. I'm aware that The National Association of Licensed Paralegals have been providing nationally recognised courses and professional membership for many years. I don't understand why the Institute of Paralegals are saying that their 'Route to Qualification' is the first and only career route for Paralegals?! They must be very out of touch not to be aware of the work that the NALP has been doing for the Paralegal profession all these years.

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  • I have talen the NALP examinations and found them to be very good i have obtained a LLB (Hons) and their is no other way for someone to stretch the mind Solicitors/Lawyers and the Law Society like to keep a closed shop so that they can make money at each and every turn

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  • I have done the NALP courses for the Higher Certificate and for the Fellowship Award and passed both. This helped me gain knowledge for the area of law in which I work and a basic knowledge of other areas. As for making money out of us - The NALP was my choice because it cost so little compared with the ILEX courses which I just couldn't afford and if there had not been the NALP I would never had had the opportunity of studying.

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  • I joined the NAPL in 1992 and obtained their qualification and the License. My work now involves a mixture of acting as a locum often covering the work of a solicitor who is away for some reason, sitting as a tribunal chairman and teaching law, work that I am able to do as a direct result of the NAPL qualification. For those who try to belittle the work undertaken by members such as myself, the NAPL and those who work as paralegals all I can say is you are small minded, arrogant and very insecure. Do not knock those who try.

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  • Whilst many of those who try to debase paralegals are probably solicitors they do not understand the value of a qualification in others. They are more than happy to let the paralegals do what in essence is the same work that they do whilst at the same time paying little and charging big. The clients would in my humble opinion be happier with someone with one of the paralegal qualifications than no qualification. The IoP in trying to claim a superior position to the NAPL should not give out a false representation, NAPL has a career structure supported by exams and has had so for over 20 years. During that time its members have had to earn the respect of those who they work with and for. IoP is a newcomer and is showing the green eye of envy.

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  • As we all know that becoming Licensed paralegal is really the benchmark to prove not only that the individual has legal qualifications, but also experience, and has fulfilled the criteria laid down by the National Association of Licensed Paralegals to a high standard. A s a Licensed Paralegal myself, i have many many options: i can work from home as a company Formation agent or can also work in the community and voluntary sector as i do, working in a community, i have my own staff and train newly appointed company and charity Trustees, and advise members of Committee on the new law updates. As License paralegal , i can also work freelance and can perform tasks for members of the public .
    As a paralegal , i could be a litigant in person with confidence. At the same time, i could become an exclusion Advocate, a courtroom coach, a fee earner on Locum contracts, . I think NAPL route is the best, i am now more confident in what i do in my field of work since i finish this NAPL course.

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  • The career of paralegals has thrown up enmity within the profession as some solicitors view them as a viable competition. It is time that the profession recognises that paralegals are here to stay and that the public will benefit greatly from their input whether they are working in-house or independently on the high street - which is inevitable.
    Our job as course providers must be to ensure that students receive the best quality training to prepare them for the job. So forget all the in-fighting and let's get on with the business at hand.

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  • It is offensive to refer to any human beings as "poor little filing clerks". People everywhere are trying to earn a living in the most difficult climate in living memory. Put away these "attitudes" and develope a little humanity!!
    Pete

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  • All these associations exist to make money, its that simple. I see no need for further qualifications after an LLB to become a good paralegal. Joining NALP or IoP should not be a conditio sine qua non for becoming a paralegal. It should be optional. An LLN graduate can make a good paralegal without further qualifications.

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  • Mfor Divine Afuba has missed a point these associations provide courses in practics as well as law without which the LLB candidate is at a disadvantage. Also as has been implied the paralegal need to have the strength of an association to protect them from the attotude of such as the maker of the statemen 'poor little filing clerks'.

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  • I have read the above comments,and with total conviction and satisafaction,all i can say is,'res ip sa loquitur'.
    Amanda and Team at NALP are doing a fantastic job.They will definitely shrug off this distraction from unequalled detractors

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  • As a postscript to this have a look at http://www.nationalparalegals.com/
    the NALP is now an awarding body recognised by Ofqual. It is going from strength to strength and so it should.

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  • Why is NALP given any credibility at all? Someone help me out here?
    Isn't linked to SEU ... a veritable diploma mill for years?
    NALP offers a joint degree program with SEU, an American company that admittedly cannot award UK qualifications?

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  • Daniel Alicia should be very careful in writing defamitory matter. SEU is nowhere like a 'diploma mill'. An SEU student requires a recognised professional qualification to register as an undergraduate (not just from NALP) and then has to undertake a programme of at least one year's intensive and monitored research in a subject to be approved by SEU. This is followed by the writing of an acceptable Dissertation of not less than 20,000 words. The pass 'mark' is 50% (unlike many UK Universities with a pass mark of 35%).

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  • To all those who slate the NALP will say this I hold 4 Diploma Awards with them and have been very successful in my work and the enjoyment it brings me. Those who act for the benefit of the individual and further and help others to improve their lives and careers and not for sole monetary gain have my backing.
    Keep up the good work Amanda and the ever expanding and innovative team at the NALP.

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