Master of the Rolls slams Irwin Mitchell's 'out of kilter' costs

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  • "Judges enter real world for small amount of time, don't like it, retreat back to peaceful cloisters"

    No change there, then.

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  • While I agree to some extent with the above commentator about judicial interference in cases surely it is about time someone took control of these huge fees.

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  • Has it dawned on IM that perhaps this wasnt the best case to run the 'incipitur' interest argument on?

    Own goal perhaps...

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  • These fees are utterly ridiculous, particularly bearing in mind that this represents the amount for which IM settled - God knows what their original claim must have been. Whatever happened to the `proportionality' requirement?

    It's all very well IM whingeing about delay on the part of the insurers. If this happens it's in their hands to drive the case towards trial, but it's obviously a lot more profitable just to generate letters, phone calls and emails at £27 to £50 a time (according to the report they were charging £270 to £500 per hour - what a joke!) complaining about the delay.

    It's precisely this type of greed that has killed the goose that laid the golden egg and driven insurance premiums to the level they are.

    Claims like this are dream propaganda for the reformists, and I'm afraid no rational person can disagree with them that this kind of exploitation must be stopped.

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  • I think we're all agreed that "something must be done", particularly when all posters are aware of all material background facts.

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  • Insurance (motor, home and contents, building, employer etc) are at the level they are, due to people (insurers and their shareholders) fixing them at a profitable level.

    Please do not think its legal costs that are responsible for insurance companies making money out of insurance. To believe the same would be akin to believing Mr Clegg when he claims he only agreed to the coalition on moral grounds to keep the Conservatives in check!

    PS - Father Christmas isnt real either.

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  • Firstly, I am sure I saw Father Christmas in The Lawyer this week.
    Secondly, of course this kind of publicity is bad for the profession and high fees need to be cut down. But it is wrong to blame high legal fees for motor insurance rates as the MOJ seems to be ready to concede at the moment.
    Claimants and defendants and INSURERS are responsible for the state of the personal injury market and, more often than not, it is an insurance company which is sat behind the litigant. What about the costs of rehabilitation, medical reports, disclosure etc etc, the MR is right, there is something out of kilter and the sooner something is done about it in a fair and constructive manner the better,

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  • I can only assume Rural Bliss is a defendant lawyer-each and every day I experience time wasting and cost building exercises perpetrated by Defendant lawyers. If Defendant lawyers want to take up each and every point and want a response to their letters/enquiries then they have only themselves to blame for increased costs.

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  • Sorry, even as a Defendant costs lawyer who likes nothing more than to see Claimant's twist in the wind re their costs but, this was a rum do by the MR. The £75k agreed costs included the success fee (67%) and also the ATE premium. As any fule kno for proportionality arguments these additional liabilities should NOT be included and the MR knows this.
    IM have not shot themsleves in the foot (and I never thought I would be defending IM re their costs!) but have been subject of an unwarranted pincer movement

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  • Well it is about time that Irwin Mitchell get fingered for doing this 'again', it is any wonder that this sector is under fire. I agree with comments about IM shooting themselves and every over PI / Clin Neg firm. Once again well done 'Irwin Mitchell', a class act law firm!

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