Lawyer 2B shows A-level students the way

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  • Don't kid yourself

    Hellokitty and Blatantabuse are slightly deranged... There are a million and one different fields in law and what purpose does Roman Law or Property Law have for a capital markets lawyer?

    The transferable skills learned doing other degrees apply equally well to a legal career, regardless of the actual subject matter, and 99% of what goes on during a law degree or GDL is completely irrelevant when you're in practice...

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  • Why the anti-GDL feeling guys?

    Why do some law graduates resent people coming to the subject a bit later so much? Surely if you like the subject you'll be happy for people to study it (even if it is in the less degree style GDL) - if you are committed and bright surely you'll find a training contract anyway, whatever your background? Surely even if it's not an advantage, it's not a disadvantage to do a LLB?

    Also, I'm sure many of those who have studied an LLB have not gone into practice (most people I know in fact), just as I did a maths degree and (much as I loved it) didn't go into any of the fields typically associated with it. As I temped in different places, and realised my skills, I realised what I wanted to do. Not many people know exactly what they want to do at 18 and why should they?

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  • I have a dream

    Here's to the day when law is taught in primary schools and secondary schools across the land. Then one can know at the age of 16 with absolute certainty that they 'enjoy law'.

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  • Hellokitty

    Hellokitty said she "would kind of doubt how committed GDL types actually are." I did the GDL part time in the evenings while I also had a full time job, and have found that in general, legal employers viewed that as a demonstration of committment to a successful career in law rather that something that cast doubt on it.

    And as for the comment "anyone who really wants to do law will do an LLB at 18", the assumption that everyone's circumstances will allow them to do that demonstrates just the sort of attitude that has limited diversity in law firms in the past.

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  • There is a world outside the law

    Blatantabuse's attitude is extraordinary to anyone outside the law. The rest of us know that there's more to life than law, so a university education can reasonably reflect other interests, saving the vocational aspect for later. Blatantabuse's approach is one reason why so many lawyers find it impossible to relate to, or even communicate with, non-lawyers.

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  • What the hell's the LPC for?

    If one was to follow the fussy logic of the two posters who have come out as so anti the GDL route then surely they, with their advanced LLB understanding, would trounce the poor GDL clowns on the LPC and henceforth proove their point.

    Unfortunately for them this isn't the case: those who do the GDL achieve exactly the same results on the LPC as those who have done a 3 year law course. The fact is that law at Uni is pretty easy, the GDL isn't too tricky and if their was any disparity between the two our friends in HR would be smart enough to notice. I did the GDL route and will accept that a law degree has a greater breadth of experience but in practice the two routes have little to do with the actual 'job'. Now if you will excuse me I'm off to work on my swing- these golf course management essays don't write themselves you know!

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  • non-law first degree

    Go to the US and do a JD. Then earn USD160K base plus USD30K bonus right out of school. You will get cost of living adjustment if you work outside the US of up to USD60-80K. All in this means USD270K for a fresh grad with a JD. Forget about the stupid GDL or a LLB, JD is the way to go and you'll get paid 3 to 4 times what pathetic trainees are being paid

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  • Barristers are lawyers too!

    As I understand it, the GDL is designed to give an overview of the key areas of the law quickly, whereas the LLB is designed for in-depth study and analysis. On this understanding, I would say that the LLB would be more beneficial to a future barrister, rather than a future solicitor. Barristers require the ability to gain a deep understanding of a particular area of the law; the policy considerations underlying legislation, the principles an aspect of tort law is based upon etc, very quickly, which is something, I would say, a solicitor doesn't have to deal with as frequently. Also (and I apologise if this is incorrect) jurisprudence is a subject of enormous importance to a barrister for the reasons above, and is not available on the GDL.

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  • Re "Now Oxbridge need to reach out"

    Re: "Now Oxbridge need to reach out
    Date: 10-Mar-2009 @ 16:09
    From: Anonymous"

    What rubbish. School pupils who can't work out that you don't need to go to Oxbridge to study law surely aren't exactly what the profession is looking for... We all have the similar opportunities and people should not get special treatment.

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  • LLB Route

    Being a Second Year law student studying the LLB I am quite appalled at Tiger Woods' comments that reading law at universiy is 'pretty easy'. In comparison with my peers my degree is far more difficult and challenging, especially managing coursework, tutorial work and vac scheme applications simultaneously. I think it is offensive to all LLB students to say our degree is 'easy'. If it was perceived so by reputable law firms why would they not ask for a First Class Degree instead of a 2:1? Surely if the content is that easy and we all work hard a First should be manageable? I don't think so, not if you want to have a life. Really disrespectful of Tiger Woods.

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