Herbert Smith Freehills Herbies hires partner from ex-ally Gleiss for German launch By James Swift 13 February 2013 09:53 17 December 2015 14:46 Sign in or register to continue reading. It's FREE Sign in Email Password Keep me logged in Forgot your password? Not registered? It's FREE! Register now Register with The Lawyer Cheapsider 13 February 2013 at 10:35 Munich would have been a better place to open because it has a thriving legal start-up culture. In Frankfurt Herbies will get lost among the giants. Why have Herbies dismissed ever opening in Munich? Reply Link anon 13 February 2013 at 10:38 ‘the Thaeter hire was made amicably’ – really? If he left to join Herbies then he’s going to be the competition, can’t see how Gleiss can be happy about that (unless they wanted to see the back of the partner – which seems unlikely if he is able to bill the Euro 3m a year needed to make it worth having him on-board.) Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2013 at 10:51 They did say they wanted to launch in Munich too Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2013 at 10:52 Off to a weak start after raising the expectations high … Reply Link Vercingetorix 13 February 2013 at 11:24 The failure of HS and Gleiss to do a deal is going to end up as being a lose-lose situation for them both. Very silly they have ended up here. Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2013 at 12:11 Can never understand why anybody thinks HS and Gleiss should have merged. Mergers only work if both sides see the business sense and in this case Gleiss certainly didn’t and HS only asked as a matter of course. Thaeter is a good first hire. Outstanding corporate lawyer who did lots with HS. But of course it’s only a first step. Why Gleiss let him go – and more to the point didn’t hold him to his notice period – is an interesting question. When Olaf Ötting (regulatory lawyer) announced his departure to A&O, Gleiss held him almost a year. Perhaps Thaeter couldn’t really have a decent corporate practice in Berlin (that’s why Gleiss wasn’t heartbroken), and maybe he didn’t want to get involved in the scrum in the Gleiss Frankfurt practice. This way he gets to lead it all, just like at Gleiss until a few years ago when he was practice-group leader. Reply Link Vercingetorix 13 February 2013 at 12:49 Good to see the Gleiss spin doctors are monitoring this thread… Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2013 at 13:38 @vercingetorix If you knew Gleiss at all, you’d know they wouldn’t have any idea what a spin doctor is. No word for it in Swabian. Reply Link anon 13 February 2013 at 14:52 @Anonymous | 13-Feb-2013 1:38 pm ‘ they wouldn’t have any idea what a spin doctor is’ I remember Gleiss had quite a smart and forward-looking PR guy. Although it is true as a firm they are a bit stiff. The partners didn’t seem to know their PR manager’s first name and always referred to him only by his surname, which felt a bit uncomfortable. Though, this could just be German formality. Reply Link Anonymous 13 February 2013 at 16:37 Herbies was, as in most things, too slow off the mark with Germany in the first place – which is why it was left with an unsuitable “alliance” partner in Gleiss in the first place. Whether a Gleiss hire now is the answer is open to question. Reply Link Name Email Cancel reply Threaded commenting powered by interconnect/it code.