Everything Everywhere lawyer relaunches Lawyers' Secular Society

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  • Thank you to The Lawyer for covering this.
    I just wanted to clarify a couple of things if I may.
    Firstly, the High Court found that prayers were a formal agenda item of Bideford Town Council and that they were part of the meeting. Bideford rejected two compromises: (a) prayers not to form part of the meeting but to take place before the meeting, on council premises, for those who wished to participate, and (b) a period of silence as part of the meeting, where the religious and non-religious could focus their thoughts as they wished.
    Secondly, I could have been clearer about same-sex relationships. The LSS is only concerned about people’s views on same-sex relationships if this results in discrimination or otherwise infringes the lawful rights of others.
    There is more information on our website though it is currently being updated.
    Charlie Klendjian
    Secretary, Lawyers’ Secular Society

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  • Well done Charlie for relaunching the LSS and I will certainly be joining you.
    Is the meeting on 4 Feb an open one for prospective members to attend?

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  • Thank you, Paul, and thank you for your email (and also to everyone else who has emailed; the response has been fantastic). You are welcome to come to our meeting on 4 February – note that it will be at 6 King’s Bench Walk rather than Matrix as we tend to rotate between a few different chambers. I will be emailing everyone tonight.
    Charlie Klendjian
    Lawyers’ Secular Society

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  • Since almost every principle of English Law, is albeit indirectly, based on standards of Judeo Christian morality could we ever reach a stage where "no weight [is] attached to religious doctrine?" Presumably you're not thinking of ditching all the stuff about not stealing or committing murder?

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  • Re: “Since almost every principle of English Law, is albeit indirectly, based on standards of Judeo Christian morality”
    Having been on the receiving end of Bishops acting in a quasi-judicial role I can tell you that the quote by Mahatma Gandhi sums it all up
    “An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching.”
    Why? Because you are not going to get an ounce!

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  • Hello Charlie,

    Re: Should human rights always outweigh religious rights?

    The answer is simple follow the Quran; Quran encourages democracy by letting us know that we need to abide by the people's covenant (the rules of existing government) and also by God's covenant. In the case where compromise is needed we can be led by God's covenant. Following the Government rules means, tolerant to communities like gay etc.;

    [3:112] They shall be humiliated whenever you encounter them, unless they uphold GOD's covenant, as well as peoples covenants with you. They have incurred wrath from GOD, and, consequently, they are committed to disgrace. This is because they rejected GOD's revelations, and killed the prophets unjustly. This is because they disobeyed and transgressed.

    I am messenger of God called Al-Muzzammil, my name is coded in the Quran; if you require consultation regarding any religious matter, if I am able to help, please do not hesitate to ask.

    Kind Regards

    Ijaz Chaudry

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