University of Law accused of “despicable” debt collecting by aggrieved father

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  • The guy clearly owes a cancellation fee. That much is clear. However, I do think there is some room to argue that £4,500 is a totally unreasonable amount to pay. I'd want justification that there has indeed been that level of loss to the University.

    I'm starting the LPC at the "University" of Law next week and have been utterly unimpressed with its organisational skills which leave me wondering how true their assertion is that "After that point, our resources are committed. Our tutors, classrooms and materials are not recoverable beyond that point." Timetables are only notified to students a week or two before the course starts, despite many students needing to arrange part time work well in advance. I still have no idea what subjects I am even studying or what days these are on and I was told a week ago that I have to be at induction in London on a day this week when I am supposed to at work.

    And they are obsessed with getting your money. You have to pay extortionate deposits and the term fees must be paid upfront, well in advance. I had emails sent to me in error recently saying I owed hundreds of pounds when actually I am being sponsored through the LPC and don't owe them a penny.

    I suppose I find it difficult to be sympathetic to LPC providers who, in my mind, are making a killing off students by unfairly marketing their courses to swathes of uniformed and under qualified, wannabe lawyers who will never make it yet fall for the claims that the LPC will give them a huge advantage in obtaining a training contract. It doesn't by the way - for any people considering giving it a crack. LPC providers make their money off these cash-cow students and I personally don't think it's fair. There should be more stringent entry requirements and students given realistic advice about the state of the legal market before embarking on a £14,000 course. But there we go.

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  • Good decision to stay away from the law. It used to be a good career. For most people who take a law degree, great opportunities are long gone. That universities offering courses in law continue to be subsidised by public funds is a disgrace.

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  • I imagine any educational establishment would apply similar rules - by taking a place you are keeping someone else off the course. No school, university or college could work on the basis that students just turn up on the day if they feel like it. There has to be a cut-off date.

    Sounds like the son's instinct that he wasn't cut out to be a lawyer was correct ...

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  • This does seem a little heavy-handed on the part of the UoL. But the agreement is the agreement - should have cancelled on time.

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  • His repeated use of the word "kid" is extremely aggravating. His son was a university graduate considering becoming a lawyer; he was (by several years) old enough to enter into full blown contractual and financial agreements. His son's inability to organise himself and take responsibility for adhering to the clear terms and conditions of the contract have resulted in him owing thousands. Welcome to the real word. Stamping your feet and saying the University should let him off on moral grounds is rather pathetic behaviour, and this story has certainly not endeared me to his cause at all.

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  • "I am not at liberty to discuss an individual case..." Well, apparently, yes you are. Or you aren't, but you chose to go ahead anyway. Choose one or the other -- state that you can't comment on individual cases and then put the phone down (or enter into a semi-philosophical discussion about English contract law, or maybe discuss the ins and outs of the European Central Bank's monetary policy, or maybe beekeeping); or -- go ahead and give a comment and try as hard as you can to avoid prefacing it with a completely insincere and nonsensical statement. Sort it out people.

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  • I have every sympathy with the student and his father. This is what happens when you go to a "University" that is backed by PE money. This would have never happened in a real University. Never!

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  • There is no case to answer.
    If everyone could pull out that easy the courts would be full of cases and this would not make contracts worth the paper they are written upon.
    Just as well this is not going to enter the profession as he would no doubt have the same attitude to the expiry of a limitation period.

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  • The only way they would not have suffered a loss is if they have replaced him
    Are they under a duty to do so and if so, how? They can try and mitigate their 'loss'.
    Perhaps they have a reserve list and if they can or have done that then they are in no worse position and should not take any further steps.

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  • Man up and pay your whack, and stop getting dad to fight your battles. What a lot of nonsense!

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