Conference quotes

Steve Orchard, Legal Aid Board (LAB) chief executive: “What he [criminal legal aid lawyer Roy Douglas] said came out of an orifice and it wasn't between his ears.”

Paul Boateng, Labour legal affairs spokesman: “I have to say to you that there is no more money for legal aid.”

Roger Smith, Legal Action Group director: “The Labour party has time to discuss and consult over its proposals and I think it needs it.”

Lord Mackay, Lord Chancellor, on league tables: “I used to marvel at the way certain people got business when the quality of the outcomes were deplorable. But the people affected weren't clients again for some considerable time.”

Sir Tim Chessells, LAB chair: “People not making use of legal aid are unlikely to see it as a priority in the same way as they do for education.”