Camerons battles backlash from controversial outsourcing deal

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  • Too late, son. The CVs went out to recruiters last week.

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  • Maybe we could work for Cameorns on Mon, Wed and Fri and Integreon on Tues and Thurs. Problem solved! Lol loooool looooooooooooooool (wheeze) lol.

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  • Duncan - are you going to take the hit for this one? Or are you going to throw Wright under the bus?

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  • So the new business model seems to shaping up nicely:
    1. Destroy morale
    2. Back peddle furiously
    3. Wipe egg of face
    4. Er, aplogise?

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  • The article suggests that they are only now consulting with staff; if this is true then what a mess!
    Surely early consultation had to play a major part in this if it was to work?
    Damage limitation at this point is too late, their reputation as a employer is in tatters!

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  • Cameron's management team : toothless, worthless, spinelss, useless. But we knew that before all of this happened.

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  • This is all so sad. I worked at Camerons from 2004 to 2007 before joining a larger firm. So many times I tell people that Camerons may have been smaller, but they were far better managed and treated their staff much, much better. It really was a great place to work. I trusted our management, we always heard things about the business, even if it was bad, and had as close a family situation as you could get in a law firm. Now it seems new management has wrecked it. What went so wrong? Profit used to be going up up up. Is there a correlation now with the new management of profits going down down down? Maybe it is a lesson in how to treat people and communicate with them tied to profits?

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  • With no offence intended, the job market in London tends to be tight and you often pay over the odds for "less able" employees (basic supply and demand), as anybody remotely competent can find a better paid job at your competitors. London (and maybe the SE) is quite unique in this regard. The rest of the UK being quite the opposite. It seems quite reasonable for a firm to outsource this “balance of power” issue to an external firm – let the wage inflation be their problem.

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  • I see that when it was a great initiaitive, Duncan's face is all over the article. Now the sh*t has started to hit the fan he's nowhere to be seen. Nice touch. Richard Price, looks like you're going to have to do more than 1 extra year as senior partner to sort this out. How you booked in 2012?

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  • So firstly our redundancy policy was cut in half although ' no redunancies were planned'. Redundancies followed within 3 months then the flex salary reductions were made to secure the long-term futures of staff and the firm. And within 12 months half of those staff are up for transfer/redundancy. Can I propose that the Firm broadens it offer of services to:

    Law.Tax. Lies.

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  • I have to respond to Anonymous | 24-May-2010 1:05 pm.
    I truly hope that as soon as you pressed "submit" you regretted it. Do you really see this as an issue of "supply and demand, "a balance of power" difficulty or a "wage inflation problem"? Where for God's sake is your humanity? We are talking about human beings, hard-working and once loyal and dedicated to a firm which not long ago seemed to have a sensitive moral compass. These are not figures on a profit and loss account; they are not numbers on a list. They are real people who are angry, disappointed and fearful of being sacrificed in the greedy pursuit of evermore more profit per point.
    When will Cameron's wake up to the terrifying prospect of a senior partner very soon having to admit that its greatest asset is no longer its people, but its outsourcing contract? Before it's too late?

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  • Does anyone honestly join a firm and think that they are not dispensable. It's 2010. You're working in the City of London is one of the most rapacious, capitalistic envionments in the world. Surprise, surprise - the firm wants to save a few quid. Deal with it or move on you whingers.

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  • It is one of the most rapacious capitalistic environments in the world because of morons like you. If you don't like hearing our 'whinging' why are you even reading our comments, let alone going to the trouble to write uninteresting and unconstructive responses? Why don't you go and do something better with your time. Oh, that's right, you haven't got anything better to do. Shame! - nice way to lead your life.

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  • Ease off and have a heart "Camerons Staff - Toughen Up", the 80's have gone, and you're mild Gordon Gekko attitude is bordering on ridiculous!
    P.S. Lunch is for Wimps!

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  • I agree with the message on toughen up. Job for life is a mirage even in the most socialist, protectionist environments. Do people really expect that in the City of London?

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  • No regrets.
    The regions suffer chronic unemployment, there are plenty of unemployed and perfectly able people outside of the SE region (which incidentally drives down wages).
    Firms can employ people at a fraction of the cost, yet like lemmings most firms flock to London, without clear advantage or reason for it. Same goes for the Government who seem to only instruct London based firms.
    The SE region gets a disproportionate amount of Government investment and projects, and then they wonder why growth is concentrated in the SE.
    Act like lemmings and soon you will find a cliff to fall off.

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  • As I dragged myself into CMS today feeling totally let down and unmotivated, I realised that after 20 years working for a 'prestigious city law firm', come October I, if not made redundant, will be working for a 'foreign service provider'!! Good career path I thought!!! Myself and my long-term colleagues have been loyal through the difficult times, put in extra hours and as they asked 'gone that extra mile'. For what, so that they can get fatter wallets while us 'mere back office staff' get sold down the river to some company who when telling us one of their buzz words is 'SMILE' (Spread Magic and Love Everywhere) couldn't even remember what it stood for!!!!!

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  • That's fine, 'Toughen Up', but the problem Camerons faces is that it doesn't offer the pay, prestige, work/life balance or quality work to counterbalance the impact of the change in attitude.
    The poster who worked there between 2004-7 summed it up well in my opinion: used to be a great place to work but the question is why you would choose to work there now that it's both well off the MC in terms of prestige/quality of work but also not a brilliant place to work.
    I honestly believed that it was one of the City's best-kept secrets up until about 12-18 months ago as the work and pay are decent but it was relatively relaxed and collegiate. That's gone now so its 'USP' has gone too.
    Weston came in promising to push the firm to the next level in terms of prestige and profitability, and you never know what the next few years will bring, but the transition from cuddly also-ran to Silver Circle contender isn't an easy one and people will get bruised along the way. The question is whether he can get things moving before the better people all leave!

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  • Camerons Staff - Toughen Up: No, nobody thinks they are indispensable and I am sure people would have floated their CV's around and would land in better jobs, worser jobs, similar jobs etc.,
    What is a problem is, it is not only going to affect the employees but the employer as well. It is a mutual relationship, you do not honor it, the people who come in as part of Integreon will work dispassionately.
    Yes, the work gets done for a cheaper rate but not real, good, high quality.
    I am presuming that you are sitting outside and as the classic quote goes - "It is recession as long as it does not affect me, but it becomes depression the moment my job is at stake!" is why you are able to pass on a different perspective than the so-called-whiners.
    A couple of questions -
    Integreon is a 200M company and how come CMCK award them 600M contract? Is this a JV? If so, is CMCK losing so much on their legal advice business that they are hoping on getting revenue through these means?

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  • CMS CAMERON MCKENNA what a joke asked staff to take flex saying it was an investment in the company! the support staff did this at personal sacrifice and now we are told that it was not an investment. after loosing 20% of our pay we are then shiped out so that they can protect their profits!
    This is pure greed and insensitive in the present climate! I bet there will be no pay rise or bonus this year until the move to integron goes ahead!

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