40,000 fans and I know the truth By Matt Byrne 17 September 2012 00:00 17 December 2015 12:27 Sign in or register to continue reading. It's FREE Sign in Email Password Keep me logged in Forgot your password? Not registered? It's FREE! Register now Register with The Lawyer Richard Moorhead 20 September 2012 at 09:05 This is a powerful and moving piece. Tony Blair’s response to a memory prior to the setting up of LJ Stuart-Smith’s Inquiry provides an interesting indication of the approach of Government. Suggests he and Straw were just going through the motions. See here: http://sport.uk.msn.com/blog/beyond-the-far-post-blogpost.aspx?post=a6bdb44f-4f7f-4dd5-af17-8ba752d661a5 The (v short) memo repays reading. Reply Link Lavender 21 September 2012 at 06:45 “The truth of the extent of the actions to block the escape of fans and to block the medical treatment of fans remains untold by the courts and the media. But it remains known by more than 40,000 people and continues to be told by word of mouth.” Are you suggesting here that the SYP deliberately allowed fans to die? What I watched on my tv screen was a scene of total chaos, thousands of people in the stands and hundreds if not thousands on the pitch Reply Link Helen 21 September 2012 at 13:21 I don’t think the SYP deliberately allowed fans to die but they didn’t do enough to help them live. They had assumed the fans were at fault and were incapable of realising the gravity of the situation. And I’d guess that was in no part due to institutional contempt of football fans and in particular, Liverpool fans (this was only 4 years after Heysel). Football fans were treated as drunk hooligans, including children. If you know anything about Liverpool you will know that families are split down the middle between supporting Everton and Liverpool FC – blue and red coexist pretty harmoniously. However, in 1992 a friend said that she thought that Hillsborough would not have happened if Everton had been playing Notts Forest that afternoon. Same city, same families, different colour. What would have been different? But it’s an opinion that goes some way to explaining how you could cover this up. By the way LJ Stuart-Smith, the reason why so many fans were late was that there were hold-ups on the roads. If a cover up on this scale can go on with 40,000 witnesses, it makes you really wonder what can go on with individuals. Reply Link Phil Scraton 28 September 2012 at 14:06 Daniel states,’The Hillsborough panel has not reported the truth. The panel has reported the version of events as originally told by the establishment witnesses.’ Our terms of reference obliged us to seek full disclosure of documents from all public and private bodies concerned with the context, circumstances and aftermath of Hillsborough, to analyse those documents and demonstrate how that disclosure ‘adds to public understanding’. We accessed and researched the mass of material from 85 agencies and our 395 page Report responds to our Terms in detail. In presenting the Report to the families and survivors for over two hours on 12 September it was clear that the ‘truth’ of the Report, including our analysis of the circumstances concerning ‘escape’, ‘medical treatment’, pathology, criminal and civil actions, coronial inquiry and so on, closely reflected the experiences of witnessing and surviving the disaster – and the endurance of bereavement. Reply Link Name Email Cancel reply Threaded commenting powered by interconnect/it code.