Taking photographs at Braehead Shopping Centre

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  • It is a quite extraordinary set of events.
    The Twitter feed @stvmike, which claims to be that of Mike Edwards a Senior Reporter at STV, reports a rather nasty allegation about Mr White. It's in a sequence of messages which predict and then report the contents the Strathclyde Police statement but it's not clear who is his source.
    It all leaves a nasty taste in the mouth and I'd be surprised if this was the end of the affair.

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  • This posting is utter guff. Mr Bad Law spends ages ranting on about bad journalism and people jumping on media-inspired bandwagons and then does exactly that. He is clearly lazy as he jumps to the exact same conclusions: that the man taking the photographers is an innocent who was treated badly and that the police are evil and have made some kind of gaff by releasing their own statement.
    One-sided social media anyone?

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  • @Marx
    Thank you for your comment and I hope you enjoy the blogpost when you read it.

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  • Marx must have read a different post from me. The one I saw here stated clearly that it is hard to draw conclusions from the evidence available in this case.
    The question that I suspect many of those following this case will be asking is this: if Mr White had in fact been approached about some different and unsavoury offence, why he he want to drum up all this public interest and risk the whole world knowing? Would he not have been more likely to simply slink away, as quietly as possible?
    Some people defy reason. Perhaps he simply did something stupid. But in light of his coherent and well written description of his experience, it seems unlikely.

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  • What disturbs me about the Police response is the use of inference. Their statement implies there is something dodgy about Mr White, which they know and can only hint at to the world.
    Surely this is a case now for the IPCC to investigate objectively. The Police otherwise appear to have appointed themselves as investigators, prosecutors and judges without Mr White having the opportunity to know what he is being accused of and have the right to reply.

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  • Jumping on the bandwagon's bandwagon, David?

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  • This was Braehead's initial statement, which has now disappeared:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xJIS02fDiL8J:www.braehead.co.uk/Whats-on/News/Statement-from-Braehead+braehead+statement&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
    You may note that there is nothing there to back up what the police have claimed, and that they agree it was about him taking pictures of his daughter.

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  • Unfortunately the police account is hardly very specific. There may be very good reasons why they can't give those details, but it doesn't help. Even where there is an apparent direct denial, when you look into it carefully, it's not quite what it might seem. The police quote is
    "When our officers became involved they did not confiscate any items, nor was Mr White questioned under counter terrorist legislation."
    Now it was not Mr. White's allegation that he did have anything confiscated. He also never claimed he was formally questions under counter terrorist legislation. What he did say was
    "“He then said that under the Prevention of Terrorism Act he was quite within in his rights to confiscate my mobile phone without any explanation for taking photos within a public shopping centre, which seems an abuse of the act."
    The police statement does not amount to a denial that a statement of this sort was made.
    Personally I find the police statement somewhat evasive. Yes, we can't conclude anything for sure; we do not, for example, have access to the CCTV footage. However, it does have a vague smell of officialdom and playing with words about it.

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  • @Tom:
    "The staff thought the man had also been taking photographs of them and they alerted one of the centre’s security staff."
    Do they not state that it was about taking photographs not just of the daughter but of the people at the icecream stall too?

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  • I'm with @Christine - isn't there something extremely wrong with the police effectively saying "This chap's a wrong'un but we can't say in what way or who we know, and we're not charging him".
    However unfair or inaccurate or one-sided or manipulative Mr White might (or might not) have been, surely it's never acceptable for the police, via an official statement, to malign someone in this nudge-nudge fashion?

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